Did they hack THIS election too?

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Numbers, Numbers, Numbers

There is an interesting piece from Common Dreams via the Free Press regarding the Reform Ohio Now amendments, pre-election poll numbers and results. Here’s the jist…

On November 6th, the Columbus Dispatch ran an article based on a poll completed the Thursday before the election based on 1872 registered Ohio voters with a margin of error at plus/minus 2.5 percentage points and a 95% confidence interval. The Dispatch poll revealed the following:

Issue One would pass with 53% of the vote.
Issue Two would pass with 59% of the vote (with 33% opposed and about 8% undecided) .
Issue Three would pass with 61% of the vote (with 25% opposed and 14% undecided).
Issue Four would probably fail with only 31% in support (45% opposed, and 25% undecided).
Issue Five would be a toss up with 41% in support, 43% opposed and 16% undecided.

Now here are the actuals:

Issue One passed with 54% of the vote, only 1% off the Dispatch poll
Issue Two failed with 63.5% against and 36.5% in favor, meaning 22% of those who supported it had to switch and all undecideds voted against it.
Issue Three failed with 67% against and 33% in favor, meaning 28% of those who supported it had to switch and all undecideds voted against it.
Issue Four failed with 30% in favor to 70% against, which means all undecideds voted against it.
Issue Five failed with 30% in favor to 70% against, meaning all undecideds voted against it and 11% of those who supported it switched.

If someone who is a math major or has a math degeree would like to explain to me how a poll which, within 1 percentage point, accurately predicts Issues One and Four, yet is so wildly inaccurate for Issue Three that the complete opposite numbers appear for the poll (61% for/25% against) and the results (67% against/33% for), I would sure appreciate the insight.

Oh, and by the way, there’s this little nugget:

…the Sunday Dispatch also carried another headline: “44 counties will break in new voting machines.� Forty-one of those counties “will be using new electronic touch screens from Diebold Election System,� the Dispatch added.

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn’t it?

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just a guess, but maybe the

just a guess, but maybe the poll was wrong? presumably they only polled registered voters, but with only 39% turnout, they might have included too many people who were registered but just didnt bother to vote.

statistically, what you are

statistically, what you are proposing should not make the difference it did in the results (if the methodology was not flawed it should not matter AT ALL). also that type of mistake is already accounted for in the margins of error (+/- 2.5) and the % of certainty (95 %).

historical observations show that the probability of this election being hacked also is higher than what you mentioned.

I ♥ OHIO!

I ♥ OHIO!

Corruption, corruption, corruption. Go USA

McVoting

Just another reason not to worry about or organize anything around voting. If voting really changed anything it would be illegal. (someone else said that first)

I will not argue that "if you vote you're stupid" but if you solely put your faith in voting, then you need to reevaluate thousands of years of human history and progress. The powers that be only change when they are forced to change, only when we act independently of their machinations and system does anything get accomplished.

"Are you feeling sad and empty; are there lots of things you lack?
Is your life made up of misery-then dump the bosses off your back!"

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